Mark_Hayes's 100 Most Recent Forum Posts

"Want to Be a Guitar God Really Fast?" 5 years ago
I am not worthy! I am not worthy!
"Want to Be a Guitar God Really Fast?" 5 years ago
How many sheets can you be fed at once?
"Want to Be a Guitar God Really Fast?" 5 years ago
I hate the very term "shredding". It's just such a destructive and unmusical concept, like you're turning your guitar into some kind of high-powered paper shredder that spits out lots and lots of little pieces of finely chopped-up sound, real real fast. Which I suppose is the idea.

Not to say that a lot of the guys labelled "shredders" aren't very good, or that fast playing is somehow intrinsically bad, that would be silly. I just hate this term and the goal it lays out for aspiring musicians. And it does seem to be THE thing to want to be, from what I'm seeing (though not here, obviously).

Mark
"Want to Be a Guitar God Really Fast?" 5 years ago
I finally got curious after repeatedly seeing those ads that promise if you click HERE you can "Learn The 3 Simple Guitar Control Secrets" and "Rule the Neck Instantly" so I clicked THERE, provided (as of course I had to) a throwaway email address, and the Truth was revealed to me! By the time I finish typing this post, I will be a GUITAR GOD!

To save y'all the trouble, here they are, those 3 Simple Guitar Control Secrets (you might want to print this off and tape it to the fridge or something):

1) Essential Technique
2) Fretboard Knowledge
3) The "Brain-to-Hand" Connection

There you go! That's them! Who'd have imagined it could be so easy? Just acquire ESSENTIAL TECHNIQUE, FRETBOARD KNOWLEDGE, and THE "BRAIN-TO-HAND" CONNECTION and you, too, can Rule the Neck of your gitbox as easily as if it were the neck of a dead turkey!

I have to warn you, though, it's not exactly "instant". It can, in fact, take up to 115 minutes.

To be fair, there's a bit more to the guy's program than just that, but I found this "revelation" entertaining and thought I'd pass it on. Now back to my budding Godliness... only 110 minutes to go!

Mark
Singer wanted for Frank Zappa song? 5 years ago
Hey, I decided to just do this real simple like with just a synthesized vocoder vocal -- http://www.icompositions.com/music/song.php?sid=108833

Thanks to those who expressed interest!

Mark
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Singer wanted for Frank Zappa song? 5 years ago
Ooooooooooh, OK. <insert smiley representing feelings of dumbness> Well, he may do it, depending on how he feels about the pre-alpha "demo" I just pointed him to!

Mark
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Singer wanted for Frank Zappa song? 5 years ago
Jkane, if I thought I could, I would, but... the only way I could make it listenable would be to do that goofy sped-up vocal trick again, and I don't want to use that twice (especially since it was kind of a ripoff to begin with). But thanks for the vote of confidence!

Mark
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Singer wanted for Frank Zappa song? 5 years ago
"Let's Make the Water Turn Black"

If you don't know it, you probably won't want to do it, but if you do know it, and you can sing the mildly tricky melody, and you're interested, please let me know! I haven't done the instrumental "bed" yet 'cause I can't sing it myself and don't want to bother if it's going to go unfinished, but I'm confident I can cook up something on my end that will do it justice.

Male, female, I don't care, nor am I looking for any particular sound. Just somebody who can sing who might want to join me in rendering this delightful little tune with some genuinely weird (though NOT grossly and puerilely sexual) lyrics. If that be you, please give a holler!

Thanks,
Mark
Official Song Plugging Thread 5 years ago
Hey ho, all!

This is coming a couple of days late but it didn't occur to me to plug it here at the time, so I just wanted to wave my hands a little before it drops out of sight and point to the second collaboration between Rubydubidoux/Elaine and myself, our treatment of the David Lynch / Angelo Badalamenti song "Mysteries of Love", which you may have heard Julee Cruise sing in the movie "Blue Velvet":

http://www.icompositions.com/music/song.php?sid=108216

I honestly find this to be absolutely one of the most beautiful songs I have ever heard, and having done it, and I daresay done it well with a a very talented collaborator, I would really like to invite anyone who hasn't heard it to give a listen.

Thanks,
Mark
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Missing SYNTH as category 5 years ago
That's why I'm big on "Other". Sometimes it's obvious -- "Jumpin' Jack Flash" is ROCK -- but 90% of anything I find worth listening to doesn't fit neatly into any of those "set" categories. OK, maybe "Spoken Word". smiley But CLASSICAL? What exactly is that, anything that uses orchestral instruments? And all the others, the criteria are just too fuzzy and I'm not clear what their function is, anyway; you're probably not going to listen to a song just because the artist put it in a particular genre, you're probably going to be drawn to it for some other reason then listen or not listen depending on what they have to say about it.

I do see your point as well, though; there is that particular use of synths that's defining of a certain sound. And maybe you *would* be drawn to something labelled that way, so... I don't know, maybe somebody needs to do a study on genre-ology and find out exactly what role it plays in people's lives, apart from having to (often annoyingly) make awkward decisions sometimes!

Mark
Missing SYNTH as category 5 years ago
Not in agreement here. If you have SYNTH, why not GUITAR? And what about synths that sound like guitars, or guitars that sound like synths? What about "classical" compositions that are rendered completely through synthesis? I know you don't have in mind any of those things but "synth" just doesn't strike me a genre material. Not that I'm that crazy about the "genre" labeling business to begin with -- my favorite category to make and listen to is "Other". smiley

Mark
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A gentle reminder to please give credit where credit is due. 5 years ago
A real problem, of course, is the "twilight zone" status of covers here, officially forbidden yet officially tolerated, which makes any official policy re: crediting impossible. I wasn't even sure I should make my original post, but was just getting bugged enough -- and feeling guilty enough -- that I said what the hell.

Hope nobody was offended, by the way, really. Afterwards I thought my post may have been a bit too preachy, hope it didn't strike too many people as such. I *did* take pains to cite myself as a bad example. smiley

Mark
Scheduled Maintenance 5 years ago
My "yarrrrr" has been upgraded to a "huzzah!"

Mark
A gentle reminder to please give credit where credit is due. 5 years ago
The credit is in the "lyrics" section of Zamzam's song page.

Bass2x wrote:
I went to Zamzam's page to find the writers credit for Strange Fruit, but could not find it. We did a version of this tune as well, and now that I review it, the writers credit is not there. It's a collab so I can't edit it. But, yes, I agree, it should be noted.

http://www.icompositions.com/music/song.php?sid=74007
A gentle reminder to please give credit where credit is due. 5 years ago
Of course sometimes you can't find out, and if you can't, you can't. If you come across conflicting information (as I just did, in connection with "Killer Joe") you can mention that. And of course Wikipedia or any other non-authoritative resource may be wrong, making it another good idea to explicitly source your information if you have any doubt. You find out what you can and, if you're not sure the information it totally reliable, you can mention where you found it.

I don't understand the comment about gambling debts, is this something that is known to have happened?

As for the legal issue... I'm not a lawyer, but I find it extremely unlikely that merely omitting a composer's name will afford any legal protection should that composer decide to take any action. Failure to credit is in fact the basis for most copyright infringement / plagiarism suits, as far as I know.

Mark

Xolv wrote:
Sometimes it can be difficult to know who wrote a song. I have experienced this with jazz and blues songs, it may apply to any genre. There can be discrepancies in the credits given on the record. Sometimes journalists brings this up in interviews and there may be conflicting views about who actually wrote a song, which I find natural. but absurd when credits are traded against gambling debts. Of course that does not mean I should not try to give credits, just that wikipedia ..or a limited research may not be totally reliable.

There is another aspect. By requiring credits you can be considered to republish a piece as opposed to just gathering your friends to listen to you sing. There is a big difference, in particular the legal aspect of it.

For me it feels natural to find out as much as possible of a tune written by others, and tell about it if there is any interesting. The composer is certainly one thing of interest for me.( I usually listen to all other releases I can get hold of b4 deciding to do my own version but thats something else, but I get to see the tune given several credits)
A gentle reminder to please give credit where credit is due. 5 years ago
I've noticed that when people upload covers, they often cite as the composer the musician or band who did the version they're familiar with rather than the person(s) who actually wrote the song. Sometimes the composer is indeed the performer or band who recorded that version, but usually it's some subset of the band or even someone not in the band at all. I just wanted to suggest that folks put that little bit of extra effort into properly crediting composers. If you don't know and don't have media with proper credits, you still can usually find out with a quick Google or Wikipedia search.

As an example, I would like to cite one offender in particular: me. I naturally checked my own collection of material before posting this and found, in addition to some reasonable but nonetheless naughty assumptions regarding people's knowledge of Beatles songs, my crediting of the song "Pretty Woman" to Roy Orbison; in fact, it was composed by Roy Orbison and Bill Dees. It seemed only right to go back and credit Dees as co-author.

Just a thought I'm posting in lieu of anything more creative. =8^) I just know that if I were a songwriter, it would really bother me to see performers who do my stuff getting credit for creating it, you know?

Take care,
Mark
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For Beatles Fans - Revolution Demo 5 years ago
Interesting... you can hear some ravings from John that ended up on "Revolution 9", where he's yelling "Right! Right! Riiiiiiiiight!"

Mark
Covers? What's Your Opinion? 5 years ago
I can't vote in a poll like this! I like some covers, I don't like some other covers! For both esthetic and philosophical reasons. The question here puts the voter in a forced dilemma. I must vote "PRESENT". =8^)
IDEA! Tubular iBells 2009 (iComp style) 5 years ago
OK, I hear the melody, you mentioned there was going to be a backing track -- is that to be found somewhere? I'm assuming there's a harmonic framework here that can't be deduced from a single line alone.

Also: Is the idea that everyone should play that melody, or something very close to it, as opposed to free improv within the framework? I'm assuming so, yes? Is there a MIDI of this melody available that I could use to generate a score in Logic (or possibly even use as the MIDI basis for a more complicated rendition)?

Mark
Word Association game 5 years ago
Food

(Really, for some reason it's the first thing that comes to mind!)
IDEA: The iComps International Agnostic Monotone Choir 5 years ago
Thanks, OB, I'm genuinely surprised people have responded as well as they have to my Frankensteinian "Wall of Sound". =8^)
IDEA! Tubular iBells 2009 (iComp style) 5 years ago
1) If I ask to participate, does that mean I think I'm among "some of iComp's best musicians"? Eek! That really gives me pause.

2) How will this work, is the idea for the contributions to be (A) sequential solos, (B) somehow combined, or (C) completely separate pieces? Will people just upload their own new versions of your initial piece, or send stuff to you for you to mix in? The 16 bar restriction in particular has me very unclear on this question.

Sorry, not familiar with what "Tubular Bells" means here, maybe if I were I wouldn't have to be asking #2 there!

Mark
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IDEA: The iComps International Agnostic Monotone Choir 5 years ago
Aaaaaaaaaaand it's up!

http://www.icompositions.com/music/song.php?sid=107683
IDEA: The iComps International Agnostic Monotone Choir 5 years ago
ALLRIGHT! 15 notes are now had, creative work will now commence. Feel free to send more, but I'm gonna get started with this thing.

Thanks to all who contributed.

Mark
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IDEA: The iComps International Agnostic Monotone Choir 5 years ago
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Logic: Can I enter track automation value by typing it in? 5 years ago
Thank, must try this right away!
Logic: Can I enter track automation value by typing it in? 5 years ago
Well, I got an answer on LogicProHelp.com from the author of "Logic Pro 8 and Logic Express 8 (Apple Pro Training Series)", and the answer is apparently that what I seek to do CANNOT be done. Yarrrrrrr! Oh well. If anyone has any tricks that might be helpful in lieu of Logic working the way it should, please post them!

Mark
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Logic: Can I enter track automation value by typing it in? 5 years ago
Is there any way to directly enter numeric values for track automation in Logic Pro, the way you can for pan and all kinds of other parameters? Dragging those little yellow dots around is extremely difficult to do with any precision and I'd really prefer to just type in a number.

There *is* the automation event list (control-command-E), but the problem with that is that if you have a minus-infinity volume automation point at A going up to a zero point at B, that list is going to contain a long series of ascending values for points along the way, which makes it effectively impossible to edit that way.

TIA for any insight here.

Mark
IDEA: The iComps International Agnostic Monotone Choir 5 years ago
I'm actually thinking of going for a Ligeti sound now! It wouldn't just be a long, unchanging droning mass of voices, of course, they'd come and go, but... the idea of going for texture and not attending to traditional harmonic consonance, hey.

If you think you don't know Ligeti, try to remember the last time you saw the movie "2001", his music is used at various major points.

Mark
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Aquaman (proper names allowed?)
Whatever Happened To Constructive Criticism? 5 years ago
LaMarea: thanks, I'm glad you took my comment constructively. smiley

I do think it's important that people commenting critically should go that extra 10 yards to throw in a little verbiage to make sure no feelings get hurt. I'm thinking of the difference between (A) "Eh, it's OK, but the clarinet part sucks" and (B) "I find myself thinking that the piece might work better without the clarinet, which kind of busys it up a bit, what do you think of that idea?" You don't even have to like a piece to CC it -- though the not liking part is almost certainly NOT a reaction that can be shared C-ively, if it's purely a matter of taste.

Mark
IDEA: The iComps International Agnostic Monotone Choir 5 years ago
Hi Bec! Actually, having posted the link to that... it doesn't sound all that bad, in a Gyorgi Ligeti sort of way! =8^)
IDEA: The iComps International Agnostic Monotone Choir 5 years ago
UPDATE: Here's what I've got so far, all contributions just smooshed together into one big chord:

http://www.gipgipgip.com/choir.mp3 (NOTE: no longer available!)

Please note that this is NOT my idea of what the final piece will be like, it's just a "staging area" for the notes to assemble in before deployment! smiley

Please contribute a few more, I've got 12 now, I originally set a somewhat arbitrary goal of at least 15, so I'm gonna stick with that before I try to do any production with this material.

Thanks,
Mark
Whatever Happened To Constructive Criticism? 5 years ago
Re: The question of thoughts being communicated privately vs. by public comment (and please note that the following musing is specifically with regard to production-related opinions/criticisms/suggestions, and NOT with regard to matters of personal taste such as LaMarea is discussing):

I understand the reasoning of those who would keep such things private (avoid possibly embarrassing the artist, allow for some private back-and-forth if clarification is necessary) but...

Idno... imagine one person says, "I like it, but the voice is a bit too loud at 3:17". Someone else might consider that and then offer the alternative suggestion, "I agree with ABC, but perhaps you could move that particular phrase into the second repeat of that section, which is louder".

I think respectful, constructive (getting tired of that word but whatcha gonna do) ideas are better shared publicly so people can offer CC's of them, too, as well as alternative suggestions.

And LaMarea: I don't think of this sort of thing as competition, not at all (though I realize it could be approached that way by a not-so-nice person). I think of it as everyone helping everyone make the music that they, the artists of the pieces being discussed, will be happiest with. Hey, someone who wants to compete can go write their own piece (and would probably want to remain silent about anything they disliked about someone else's)!

Mark
Whatever Happened To Constructive Criticism? 5 years ago
Pretty much everything that can be said has already been said here, but I'm gonna throw in my two cents because I do feel kind of strongly about some things.

Cent #1: OK, I have to agree that the "comment culture" here *does* seem to be very heavy on the back-slapping (or mutual back-scratching) side. I've even participated in it in that mode, stifling any critical reactions and just looking for positive things to say in reciprocation for positive things said to me. And then I wondered if I was just trying to garner future positive comments for myself, which would of course be silly, if that's the whole game. I would like to mention that I did receive one criticism -- in the good sense, a negative observation offered in a positive way -- and while it hurt a little tiny bit at first, I quickly realized it was dead on and I was glad the person offering it wasn't afraid to speak their mind. But that was only one comment out of a bunch. Now, I can't say I *mind* the more... welcoming? friendly? warm-hearted? ones, of course I don't; but the extreme ratio of positive to negative in general (again, negative in the good, constructive sense) makes me suspicious that the commenting facility is primarily social in nature, and not *really* to be used for the "constructive criticism" the ratings-disabled blurb talks about. But see more below.

Cent #2: People who say "I like it this way because I don't come here to be dumped on or ripped to pieces" are confusing criticism with insult. One person put it very nicely that there is a *lot* of ground between nastily attacking a piece and the knee-jerk blowing of sunshine up the artist's hindquarters, and it is more than possible to offer criticism as an act of camaraderie rather than an act of aggression. The same people also tend to say, "Who am I to criticize?" or "I don't know anything so I don't have the right to say anything", to which I respond: You are you, and you is a you with an opinion and possibly things worth hearing that may contain elements other than just day-glo smileys. As for the "I don't know anything" part, well, I do know some things, and I think you do, too; you know your reactions and thoughts, and that's the only qualification you need to have an opinion worth hearing. This isn't a school, after all, with trained music teachers grading compositions. It's a community of listening artists, which is a very different thing. And listening is in itself a creative process, the fruit of which should really be shared just as freely as that which is listened to.

Cent #3 (OK, I found some more change in my pocket): The warm reception and positivity I've received here since I showed up just a short while ago has meant a great, great deal to me. Most of what I'm sharing has only been heard by one or two people before, so getting a positive response from a large community is fantastic. More people have heard my music here in the last 20 days than have in the last 27 *years*, and it's just thrilling. So the last thing I want to do is be perceived as dismissing their positive comments as somehow dishonest. I guess I just want to say, thank you, thank you, thank you so very, very much -- but if there's anything critical you've held back, even a remark like "the guitar at one point is a bit too loud for the context", please don't worry that I'll run off sobbing as if I'd been personally attacked. And I'll credit others with that same appreciation for the whole truth, even if it isn't always 100% day-glo.

Cent #4: This place is GROIT, and I am so so so so so glad I finally got around to signing up for it -- the bookmark has been in my bookmarks bar for ages. =8^)

Mark, apologizing for the excessive length of this
Weekly Top Songs 5 years ago
Cool, I like the change you made. That little box is easy to miss if you aren't super-familiar with iComps (the mailbox list eluded me in the same way for a while).

Thanks,
Mark
Weekly Top Songs 5 years ago
Never mind, got it.. I missed the "Help Categories" link!
Weekly Top Songs 5 years ago
Thanks, PM99, especially for such a quick response. But I don't see that article when I click "help" at the bottom -- what's the path to it, how could I have found it if you didn't tell me?
Weekly Top Songs 5 years ago
The "week" also appears to be a rolling 7 day period, relative to the present, rather than a calendar Sunday-to-Sunday week.

I wish the exact criteria for presence/position on that list could be published somewhere (maybe in the FAQ?) A lot of people no doubt have a lot of emotion and self-esteem invested in showing up there.

Mark
IDEA: The iComps International Agnostic Monotone Choir 5 years ago
Good morning, boys and girls! A quick note to say:

Need. More. Clips.

About 2/3 of the way there, we're in the home stretch, but I can't really kick off the project on my end until I get a few more. Come on, set up your recording system, go "mmmmmm" on A, and email it to me at icompositions@gipgipgip.com.

You can join the iCompositions International Agnostic Monotone Choir. Or you can turn the page.

smiley

Mark
famous guitar-players who always repeat... 5 years ago
Time Warp: Alvin Lee in "Ten Years After". One scale, one solo, one (small) set of figures, played over and over, very very fast. Still, he did do "I'm Goin' Home" at Woodstock and for that I forgive him everything else.
IDEA: The iComps International Agnostic Monotone Choir 5 years ago
Thanks, Bec, didn't think of that. Yeah, I'm still short, send 'em over!

Mark
IDEA: The iComps International Agnostic Monotone Choir 5 years ago
Nope, any note at all, up to you.
IDEA: The iComps International Agnostic Monotone Choir 5 years ago
OK, got 6 contribs so far, I'll eek out #7 myself, but I still need at least twice as many for this to come out interesting!

Would it help if I claimed that Apple is already pestering me for the rights to release the final collection as a new Jam Pack? =8^)

Mark
IDEA: The iComps International Agnostic Monotone Choir 5 years ago
Thanks, Bec, but don't HOPE -- SING! Clips, I need clips, I've only gotten 3 so far! =8^(
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IDEA: The iComps International Agnostic Monotone Choir 5 years ago
I floated this elsewhere once and it bombed bigtime, but it might fare better here on iComps...

Here's my IDEA (or CONCEPT, if you prefer)...

I hereby invite anyone who's willing to send me a recording of themselves singing a single note, maybe 5 seconds or so long. Just one note, no words, no instruments, no melody, just one note, pure and easy, preferably (though not necessarily) on a standard pitch.

If I get enough contributions (say, 15, 20? more?) I'll try to combine them all into some sort of big ambient choral thing (the potential sound of which is unknown to a singer at the time of the singing, when they have never heard any of the other parts, hence "agnostic").

OK, so, there you have it! Hope this doesn't seem too presumptuous or control-freaky or anything, I just got this idea into my head one day and would love to realize it.

Any audio format would be fine, if you want to participate, email a clip to icompositions@gipgipgip.com

Hope to hear from some people!

Mark
Official Song Plugging Thread 5 years ago
My very first contribution here after decades of making music by myself that only a handful of people ever heard, please give a listen and let me know what you think, I'm rather pleased with this one, a snappy little mutant ditty with a vaguely political tinge:

http://www.icompositions.com/music/song.php?sid=106354
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