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Peter Greenstone CD 6 years ago
Thanks. Henno, mostly all that has been done to the tracks that differs from the versions posted here at iComp is a little more mastering work. Nothing dramatically different but they do sound better on the album, some more significantly than others.

There are three instrumental tracks on the album never posted or released before.
Peter Greenstone CD 6 years ago
Hi folks. Well, after a couple years or so of getting caught up in life's other parts I have finally finished my second album, "BROKEN SYMMETRIES", and it's now available!

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As with "SOMETHING", my debut album, it's quite trans-genre and moody. But if I have to label it anything I think I'll call it singer/songwriter rock. It's introspective and a bit surreal at times. If I had the words to describe the sound then I suppose I wouldn't need to make the sounds to express myself in the first place. hehehe.

Anyway, I'm really pleased with how it all came out and I would be honored and a few bucks better off if you would purchase a copy.

Available on CD or as mp3 at CD Baby http://cdbaby.com/cd/greenstone2

Visit the official album website. http://web.mac.com/pgreenstone/Music_by_Peter_Greenstone/Broken-Symmertries.html

The album will also be available at the iTunes Store as soon as they process it (which could take a while).

Thank You,

Peter
copy tracks from one project to another 6 years ago
I've wished for a track import/export option like that for a long time. Unfortunately, no simple solution is provided. The best thing I can suggest is to save your track (the filters and settings as an instrument preset. To give that preset to another person to use just go into your GB prefs and grab a copy of the preset.

/Users/username/Library/Application Support/GarageBand/Instrument Library/Track Settings/Real/Basic Track/my-fancy-preset.cs

They just drop that in their equivalent folder and then they'll have it.

Of course they'll still have to get the audio for the track. Bounce a copy of the track with all of the effects (master, too) turned off and send them that so when they import it back into their GB project it won't have the effects already recorded into it.

A bit tedious but it should do the trick.
Reverb issues...anyone? 6 years ago
It's a common problem lots of us have when using that effect in all versions of GB. It doesn't always seem to be related to computer power being all eaten up. The why of it is a mystery but, like you say, at least it doesn't get mixed down with the export. The only way I find to deal with it while working in GB is to lock the track/s with the matrix on it. That'll clean it up. Not always convenient if you're still working on the track in question though.
How to compose in Timeline Grid? 6 years ago
First, assuming you don't already have content in that midi track, Apple-click in the timeline to create a new green segment that you can stretch if you need to. In your case you are wanting to modify/add notes to an existing midi segment but it's good to know how to start from scratch, too. Anyway, double-click on the green segment and it will open the midi note editing area below the timeline (the same place where audio waveform close-ups of tracks and the loop browser are viewed when opened.

Next, within the edit area and within the new (or existing) segment you can add and modify notes/hits. To create a new note Apple-click in the edit area (You'll notice your curser becomes a little pencil). You can then move the note around in time and pitch, stretch it, and modify its velocity and other properties to your pleasure.
EQ in iTunes instead of GB help 6 years ago
The problem with just normalizing is that if there is even one little blip in the mix that is louder than everything else then the overall volume will be brought down or up to keep that one moment from clipping. Tools for limiting, maximizing, and compressing need to be used which even out the loud and quiet parts (the dynamics)depending on how they are used. It takes some practice and experimentation to get the right results you want using those.
EQ in iTunes instead of GB help 6 years ago
The EQ in iTunes is just like the EQ or tonal controls in any stereo system; it's a listener-end modification. Professional music is mastered in a way so that it sounds good when played through stereo systems that are going to be adding additional EQ (usually bass and treble boost) to the tone. If you make it so that your music already has that additional boost burned into it then you are likely to cause it to sound over-boosted (likely too much bass and treble) on most listeners' sound systems because they are adding their own standard EQ tonal adjustments when they play it.

It is important to leave some headroom for that.
Weird effects 'ghosting' noise 6 years ago
If it's what I think it is then you can solve the problem by making sure you have a track that has no reverb effects on it selected at the time you export. You can just add an empty track to the mix that's like that if you don't already have one to select. A little annoying GB bug but that solves the glitch, assuming you're experiencing the bug I'm thinkig of.
replacing existing songs 6 years ago
taylormorgan wrote:
Hi.Perhaps it would ease the situation to try and view it in another light.If indeed you post a song then want to change something,either due to a comment or due to what you feel needed to be changed. No one would be able to do an A/B comparison.


I've made painstaking efforts several times now to explain that that would be an example of when NOT to swap a file. I try and I try to be so explicitly clear about the cases I'm referring to and yet it still keeps coming back to you arguing against things I'm not talking about. That's what's so aggravating, Taylor. Feel free to disagree with me on things, just keep it to disagreeing with or debating points I've actually made. Nobody needs do do an A/B comparison on a little pop removal or some other similarly minute tweak like that. (maybe if the song was loaded with glitches like that that really affected the listening experience noticeably.) There IS grey area, hence the "decision".

How much clearer can I make it? Making a change based on something noticeable enough that someone actually commented on it on the song page (unless a comment about missing/incorrect tags) would absolutely be a situation calling for a new submission rather than a file swap.
replacing existing songs 6 years ago
I certainly didn't mean to dictate site policy here at all. That was not my intent. The site admins can do as they please and I know they have plenty to deal with in maintaining the site already.

My point in joining this discussion was simply to explain WHY people such as myself would want to have that option. People clearly weren't understanding the "why" behind the initial poster's comments, so I just wanted to explain and give examples of those exceptions when it would be beneficial to be able to swap out files. The "artist's descision" is simply meant as the artist taking responsibility for determining when it would be appropriate to swap a file rather than resubmit as a new version. Not meant as some "fight the power" swipe against the admins of this site. I'm not demanding anything at all.
replacing existing songs 6 years ago
taylormorgan wrote:
Hi. I think it is a simple matter..If you change ANYTHING,,It is not the version originally posted,therefore not relevant to any posts previous to the new post. It has nothing what so ever to do with artistic freedoms. That is straight up rubbish.If you view it in a realistic sense. How could any comment pertain to something which has yet to occur. Even if the changes are "So-Called" insignificant?? Well if they are indeed insignificant then why make them?? Because on a per-artist basis they are indeed significant to that artist.I really hate throwing the "Artitst" word around..Taylor


I explained the reasons quite clearly but somehow you just don't get it. Completely unreasonable response from you.

And NO it has nothing to do with ego. Thanks for the insults too, folks.

It's about being able to update a tune when a minor fix/improvement has been made that is not substatial enough to have caught anyone's attention but was worth doing, changes that aren't going to make anyone's comment no longer applicable. I already gave numerous examples.

I'd like to be able to swap those files out rather than dilute my presense here with new song submissions every time I discover some minor tick or pop that I want to fix after having already posted the song. Just because a change is minor enough not to draw attention to itself doesn't mean it's not worth doing. Quality is all the details and they all add up to something, and figuring that out and how to present it IS an artist's descision.
replacing existing songs 6 years ago
Obviously that's true in cases where the artist has made some very significant modification but in cases I have often found myself in I realize only after uploading the song and having already gotten comments that there is some little detail I want to fix that nobody has said anything about and surely wouldn't consciously notice like one odd note or little volume adjustment to an instrument in one measure, or the removal of a click somewhere... sometimes something a little bigger but... y'know, fine polishing points. So I go and make the little revision and I want to just swap out the previous version with this new one but I can't. Very frustrating. Sure, I should have gotten it right before I uploaded it in the first place but it just never works out that way. In those cases the revision isn't nearly worth all the fanfare of a whole new submission but it is important enough to have in place of the one with the minor issue.

I'd prefer this be put in the hands of the artists. Let them judge when an update calls for a whole new submission and re-evaluation by previous commenters or when a file swap is more appropriate.

I scrutinize my music far more closely that anyone who listens to it does. I feel that it's that attention to detail that can make a person enjoy the music more even if they can't identify why. I'm talking about detailed refinement that a listener would have to have pointed out with an explanation, a measure number, and an A/B comparison before they could consciously notice it and offer any sort of comment on.

I'd like to swap out versions with those kinds of refinements rather than do a whole new submission where kind, well-meaning listeners comment again on the newer version to say how much they like the change made to some part that was, in fact, not changed at all. Happens all the time. "Oh wow! The bass has so much more kick now and the drums are more dynamic!" Yet nothing was changed but the removal of a click sound from the guitar track.
Your Own CD For Us To Buy! 7 years ago
My debut album "SOMETHING" is available on CD and also as a download from the iTunes store.
CLICK HERE
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Factory-pressed CD comes with 12-panel color insert of original artwork and lyrics.

I'm working on my next album and hope to get it out by the end of summer or early fall.
New to all of this 7 years ago
lannyr wrote:
Thanks for the speedy response. Would you recommend, also in midi midi, to modify chords themselves? Like adding a 7th or making sus. Some of the loops are so great that I would love to use them but it gets really monotonous withou some chord work.


It's all up to you. Modifying the chords by changing, adding, or subtracting notes is what I was talking about. You can change whatever you want depending on what you want to do artistically. I prefer to work from scratch myself but you might find a loop that with just a few note changes can fit your music perfectly and can be quite different from the original. You might just grab a small snip with a lick you like, maybe keep the note timings but change the notes themselves. Really anything.

Though it can be monotonous to do sometimes, I highly recommend working from scratch when you can. It's more rewarding in the end to have done the work.

I don't have a midi keyboard (not a skilled keyboardist) so I write all of my midi parts in the editor, note for note. Other than occasional percussion loops I don't use any pre-made loops in my music (with one or two exceptions in the past). It's a lot of slow work but it also allows me to create exactly what I hear in my head but am not skilled to perform on the keys. It always seems daunting at first but I'm always glad I put in the effort and time when I'm finally done.
New to all of this 7 years ago
When you change the pitch or tempo of a recorded loop it will tend to sound worse and worse the more you push it from the original because it's limited by the samples of the original recording. GB doesn't have nearly as advanced ability to process the audio as something much more high-end. The midi loops will always sound just as good (audio quality-wise) when you change the tempo or key because you are just changing the midi triggers and new audio is generated each time.

If you really want to lay down an original chord progression then I suggest you make it yourself from scratch or at least use virtual instrument (midi) loops that you can modify. Don't just shift the whole loop up or down in key but go through and change/add/remove/modify notes to create something new, just using the original midi loop as a starting point to build from.

Waveform audio loops are much less flexible and modifiable than the midi ones though I have heard people do some very creative things with them.
Sir Elton John Hates Us All! 7 years ago
Does he know that the internet is primarily how we SHARE our music rather than MAKE it? We use the computer to help produce the music. When he sits at his piano to come up with new material does he have it rolled out to the local city park so he can be surrounded by crowds of creative helpers? Where were they when he penciled the Princess Diana version of "Candle In The Wind"?

He must be one of those people who thinks the "internets" is made of a series of tubes.
Can't get sound to shift around in GarageBand.... 7 years ago
You're not missing anything. GB is lacking those kinds of edit functions unfortunately. It can make for some tedious work sometimes when dealing with big mixes.
What to do after finishing a midi recording? 7 years ago
Well, it depends on the particular situation. What needs to be better in your particular piece of music?

Generally speaking, I find orchestral midi pieces which have had all the parts performed on the keyboard to sound like someone playing a keyboard. Other than piano and other keyboard instruments I find it better for getting a performance appropriate for instruments like strings, brass, and woodwinds if I write the notes in and manually set all the dynamics. You could take the parts you performed and edit them to get better note combinations, velocity and expression, and modify timings. It all depends on your particular case, but it takes a lot of manual detail work to get a live orchestra sound from midi sample voices. Sometims you need to remove notes or instruments that are fighting each other, too.

Good luck and have fun.
Just Out Of Curiosity... 7 years ago
I do all my midi with the mouse and the pencil tool in GB. I can't play the keyboard and I don't own one. I prefer to write it all in anyway. I think that if I were a skilled keyboardist I'd still mostly use it just for recording piano and other actual keyboard instruments that are intended to be performed in that manner. Getting a natural performance out of strings, horns and other orchestral instruments really requires a lot of careful detail work and an approach that isn't quite the same. For me, using the midi edit window and the mouse is like a really intuitive way of writing a score.

I take a lot of time to add the imperfections in timing and the minute inflections to make it sound human in the performance. It takes a lot of work but it pays off.
Cymbals? 7 years ago
Plenty of cymbals come with GB. They are in the software drum kits. Make a new software instrument track and pick a kit like Rock or Jazz and you'll have all the parts of the kits including the various cymbals, drums, toms, shakers, cow bells, and other percussive stuff. You have to either perform the part on a midi keyboard or pencil in the notes/hits in the midi track editor. Loops are a whole other thing, though there are loops out there of just individual cymbals and other parts
how to repair clicks and ticks? 7 years ago
It's a GB glitch. After having that happen to me many times randomly I finally found out that if you have or create a track that has not effects or reverb on it and make that the active track at the time of export it won't do that glitch at the beginning. I think it's got something to do with the reverb.

Why exactly it does it is a bit of a mystery but just do like I said and it won't do it again.
Noise level on Guitar Track Frustrating-Noise Gate Plug-in? 7 years ago
Don't use the regular gate. Use the Dynamics effect which allows for soft gating, expansion, and compression. You'll need to mess with the settings to ge what you need. But that will only help with the gating part.

To reduce the noise on the track overall you are going to need to use the equalizer or one of the other tone adjusting plugins that come with GB and tweak until you have reduced the noise as best you can without ruining the good guitar sound too much.

Basically, it's really hard or impossible to remove noise from a recording after the fact without also mucking up the good parts of the sound. It all gets pretty well intermingled most of the time. But sometimes the unwanted noise can be pretty isolated from the good parts of the audio though and can be filtered out quite nicely. You just have to get in the multiband EQ and fiddle with it.

The key obviously is to try to get clean recordings to start with when you can.

Others might have suggestions for plugins designed specifically for filtering noise typical with electric guitar recording that could work for you.
Up loading seperate tracks... 7 years ago
Do not export as AAC or as mp3. Those are compressed formats of reduced quality. Even if it sounds good to your ear those are not nearly as good as uncompressed, particularly when it comes to editing and doing further work with it. Always work with the pure original uncompressed format when possible, which is AIFF (WAV is also an acceptable uncompressed audio format but not always accepted by audio applications on the Mac).

You are starting with full CD quality digital audio in GB. There is no reason to degrade the audio using those compressed formats before importing them to another program for editing. That's like taking a high-resolution digital photo in tiff format and then converting it to a little jpeg before editing it in Photoshop.

That also goes for burning audio CD's (so many times I've heard people say they convert their songs from AIFF to mp3 before burning them to audio CD). Yikes! Always burn audio CD's using the original AIFF files when you can.

Only convert to AAC or mp3 when you want to make a version for uploading to the internet, listening on an iPod or other portable player with limited storage space, burning an mp3 CD-R (to hold a lot more music than standard audio CD) or for saving disk space on your hard drive. But always be sure to at least keep a backup of your original AIFF and/or the GB .band file. You can't reverse the quality degradation caused by AAC and mp3 conversion even if you convert it back to AIFF (You'll just get a large audio file that sounds like a small audio file).
Up loading seperate tracks... 7 years ago
If you are concerned that you can't do recording and mixing of acoustic instruments and rock in GB let me assure you that you can do it all in GB. Pro Tools and programs like Logic offer a lot more features as well as higher resolution processing but GB can do a lot more than just loops. I'm not sure if that was why you wanted to involve Pro Tools in the process.

In any case, yes you should be able to bounce the individual tracks from GB to individual aiff files that you can then import into Pro Tools to work with and I'm sure it can handle more tracks than you can come up with, assuming you have a computer with some RAM and power. I believe Logic can actually import GB .band files directly but I don't know about Pro Tools; that's why I suggested importing the tracks manually, one at a time.

Not really sure what it is that you want to do though. Your description makes it sound more like you want to work in GB, so I'm not sure where Pro Tools fits into it in your case.

As far as mastering goes, you'd be doing that to just a single stereo track mixdown rather than to the whole mix with all the seperate tracks. Pro Tools likely offers much better mastering tools and processing than GB. You just export (mixdown) the tune in GB to a single aiff and import that into Pro Tools or other good mastering program of your choice.
Recording 7 years ago
Rib_Cage wrote:
Well, my computer has a built in microphone and it seems to enjoy having a lot of air in the background of the song, even if I'm the only person in the house in a completely quiet room. I don't know why I get this problem but I would love any advise as to a better quality of sound


Computers are noisy. They have fans in them to keep them cool, spinning hardrives clicking and whirring. Built-in mics are mounted right on the noise source. Not to mention that the built-in mic is not going to be the greatest quality.

Get yourself a decent condensor mic. There are lots and lots of options for how to go with your audio recording setup. Just start with the idea of getting a better mic, one not built-in to the computer and that is of better quality.
Vibrato without any effect 7 years ago
Please tell us what your equipment and setup is so we have something to work with. Could be an electrical problem, could be an improper setting, could be anything. Need more info.
How do I make a good sounding GB song? 7 years ago
AndreasvanHaren wrote:
I use the midifile that was exported out of Sibelius, and all the velocity is totally flat. So the only thing I can do to get it a little bit natural is working on the dynamics with the volume option. Maybe this will work then. What does wavebreaker or Cyanide do?


Changing the volume is not the same as changing the velocity. Instruments sound different depending on how hard or soft you play them and if you are using decent midi instruments then they were sampled with a performance range.

You can edit the velocity of each note as well as other modifiers all within the edit window for the track in GB. It's a lot of work but it is what's required if you want to make it sound human, natural and dynamic, and there is no way to automate that.

All the piano, orchestral, and other midi instruments in my music is written and detailed manually note by note, considering the emotion and expression of each one. It requires keeping one's head in the music and the moment which is passing by in very slow motion.
Hardware Compressors 7 years ago
I use an ART Tube PAC Pream/Compressor that costs only about $100. I love it and highly recommend it for vocals. The thing with using hardware compressors is that you can get the most out of your sound before it gets into the digital realm. No lowering volume way down to make sure you don't clip in those few loud parts during the recording. You get to capture a lot more audio data for the whole range.
How do I make a good sounding GB song? 7 years ago
If you are using a notation program or "penciling" it in in the GB midi editor window then it is important that you give a realistic expressive touch to the notes. The notes are going to need to vary in there intensity (velocity), some notes harsher than others depending on how hard the key would be pressed by the fingers. If it's all the same velocity it will sound lifeless and unnatural. Also, the timing of the notes. You need to have imperfection in timing, very slight, but it needs to be organic. This applies to the use of all midi instruments, strings, horns, woodwinds, synths, etc. When all the notes are in absolute perfect time with each other it will sound mechanical and lifeless.

When writing the music rather than actually performing it one needs to take the time to really give it life and make it sound performed.
Software instrument compositions... 7 years ago
Software instruments still require musical skill to use though. You either perform the part playing a midi keyboard or you compose the parts note by note in the editor. There are loops that use software instruments that a person with no musical skill could easily play with but that's different.

That said, software instruments provide a huge amount of creative flexibility in composing and arranging music in GB even if one has absolutely no external audio equipment, not even a midi keyboard. You can even work with them on a laptop with your headphones on in the back of a noisy car, in an igloo, on a hot air baloon, or wherever. It's more of a demonstration of how self-contained and ready to use GB can be right out of the box without resorting to loops at all.
Audio interface and sound quality 7 years ago
Short answer, as I don't have time now to say much: Yes, you can make professional quality music using GB, but it depends on your skill and it is important to use decent equipment for recording. If you use a crappy audio source, a bad mic, bad cables, or use them incorrectly you will get crappy sounding audio right from the start. Your end result will only sound as good as what you start with. As they say in cooking, use quality ingredients. It doesn't have to be complicated or very expensive.
Vocals first? 7 years ago
That might be a good way to experiment to help you figure out the other parts. It really depends on your own preferences and the needs of the music you are trying to make. Generally speaking it's more difficult to work that way in most cases but there's always an exception. Usually it's best to start with some kind of basic music backing and percussion to form the structure you will be singing to. It gives you some kind of structure and framing.

If you can do as becwil was saying, sing acapella on tempo and on pitch (you will need some kind of metronome or click track going to help you) then you should be able to easily build around it. After you have some music built around it you may want to reperform the vocals again.
save each channel manually as aif to desktop or automatism? 7 years ago
There is no way to tell GB to save out all the tracks as seperate audio files in one step. You'd have to do it one at a time.

Usually mastering is done on the single stereo mix though. If he wants to also do the mixing and he's going to work in Logic I believe all you have to do is give him your .band and he can open it up there. No need to save out individual aiffs of each track.
Software Instruments only 7 years ago
Chill,

Honestly, I never payed a lot of attention to Neil Pert's lyrics with Getty's singing, though I caught enough of them to know they were quite significant.

Yes, I use a real bass, a Fender P-Bass Jr. On a lot of my earlier stuff I used various software bass instruments.

If you are interested in progressive rock done almost entirely with software instruments I know a couple people who do great stuff.

Alimar (who I think can be found on iComp) is one and a guy who unfortunately seems to have gone off the radar but used to be at MacJams.com, Troy. His stuff was really cool.
Software Instruments only 7 years ago
I'm not sure if you're interested only in use of software instruments that come installed already with GB. I composed this entirely using software instruments from Jam Pack 4 (orchestral). Not a single loop used, and every note of every track was manually written in and modified (velocity, expression, sustains) in the midi track editing window.

THE LAST MIGRATION

It's really up to you and your imagination and the time you are willing to dedicate to working on it.
Recording 7 years ago
Need a lot more info about what you are doing and when and where the "fuzz" is happenning. Could be any number of things; bad plugs, bad cirquitry in instrument or other hardware, levels set too high, using wrong settings on something... fuzzy ears?
Inserting measures? 7 years ago
I assume you are asking about Garage Band?

Like hangtime said, you have to select it all and move it.

GB doesn't have the editing features like insert. It can make for a pretty tedious job when you want to insert time at the beginning or in the middle of a particularly complex mix. Another pain is that if you have used animation points on the volume or panning automation controls you will have to make those selections and adjustments seperately, one track at a time because GB won't let you select audio regions and automation points at the same time.

But it's not really a big deal on relatively simple mixes. I hope you don't have a monster on your hands. If so, well, soldier on. smiley
unable to upload one song 7 years ago
So, then it is NOT your music and you don't have the rights to post it on the web as your own music. I don't know why, in your original post, you referred to this as "my first song" seeing as it is neither yours nor a song. And merely creating cross-fades or transitions between the tracks does not constitute a Remix, let alone an original song.

Clubs and bars do pay royalties for the music they have playing, be it from a jukebox, a DJ, or a live performer singing covers. Generally, to deal with the large volume of music they go through and for practicality they tend to pay in annual flat fees to places like BMI. It's complicated to get into. Maybe someone here can provide link to one of the good info sources about it. There are threads here that discuss it in detail.

Anyway, iCompositions is a place for posting one's own original music not DJ mixes of other people's music, no matter how well-selected the tunes are or how nicely the transitions were done. There are places for that if you go about it in the right way.

While there are still copyright/legal issues that affect all public broadcast and distribution of copyrighted music I'd suggest that for the type of thing you want to share with people (DJ mix of other people's music) that you look into Podcasting or starting a live internet radio show. Legally you are still liable for what you play but at least you would be doing it in a more appropriate fashion and format. It would still be very important that you give credit to each and every artist whos music you use, at the very least.

Check out PODSAFE MUSIC NETWORK. It's a place to both find music you have permission to use in a podcast (see terms on site) and for you to post your podcast.

Those of us who create our own original music and even those who do true remixes put a huge amount of work and artistry into what we do (good or bad), so I hope you will understand any attitude I emit in my response to your claiming "my first song" and "original work". As powermac99 said but regarding the work itself, there is a big difference.
Surf genre seems to be more than just surf 7 years ago
surfnut wrote:
The wierd thing is that the song's Category says "pop" (for example) but its coming up in the Surf genre list. It seems to be some kind of problem. So I reported this song as an example: What God ... Hear by sfd101


"Pop" is probably its primary genre and then "Surf" was selected as its secondary genre. So it shows up in both genres but gets labeled with its primary one. I believe that's how it works here.

I took a listen to the example you mentioned. Yikes! Sounds like a quality issue more than anything else. It actually has some vague stylings (I use the word hesitantly here) that are Surf Rock-ish. But... yikes... seriously low-tide.
unable to upload one song 7 years ago
deathtubarolly wrote:
The original tracks are by various artists though the composition of the whole CD mix is an original work by myself and is close to 60 minutes in length.


So, it's not your music? Did you do some kind of remix versions and did you do it with permission of the original artists/copyright holders?
unable to upload one song 7 years ago
Actually, you can upload either mp3, AAC, or both and they can be higher bitrate than 128kbps, so long as the file size isn't bigger than the limit (All my mp3 uploads are 192kbps). Now what the actual limit is set at for uploads is a good question. I don't actually know.

I took a look in the help info linked on the upload page and couldn't find that out. All I can tell you is that my longest tune posted here is over 9 minutes and over 12 mb.

How many MB is your file and how many minutes long is it? It's all about file size, whatever the limit is. You may have to compress it more.

Another question... is this is a mix of your own original music that you want to keep together in one file because of the way you made them transition/blend from one to the other?
Adjusting Tempo 7 years ago
georgeptingley wrote:
Well, I went ahead and downloaded the Hijack program, not free after all - costs $32.

It is an intriguing program and has a 40-oage manual. It can record audio off CD's, DVD's, iTunes, and off the internet (like internet radio broadcasts), and you can program it to record at certain times just like a VCR recorder.

Yes, you can record your GB recordings and make real time adjustments such as effects and tempo changes. Problem is tempo changes in GB just are not very smooth. Go ahead and do the slider thing while a piece is being played - not very smooth, kind of jumpy. Hijack records these tempo changes but they just do not sound very smooth. Anyone else getting better results with Hijack?


Though what you are talking about doesn't really have anything to do with what the original poster was asking about it is an interesting trick to record manual tempo or other control changes in GB during playback.

Regarding the tempo changing you tried coming out really rough, well, it has nothing to do with AudioHijack. It merely records. It's GB that is not making the tempo transition smoothly as you move the slider. It was never intended to work that way in perfect real-time smoothness as you slide from one bpm to another while playing.

Same goes for the controls for various effects. You could record the movement of control sliders for an effect like echo length, for example. But from my experience those changes take effect in a bit of a jittery way and sometimes don't actually kick in until the mouse has been released from the slider after moving it.

One still might get control enough to get a rough but usable manual setting change over time recorded. It's sort of a neat McGuyver solution to the lack of animate-able controls in GB (other than panning and volume).

I use NiceCast which is made by the same people that make AudioHijack. It has all the functionality of AudioHijack and is an internet audio stream broadcaster. I use it for live performances that I broadcast into Second Life. I hijack the audio of GB where I do the mixing and effects and stream it out.

Thanks for pointing out the trick. It might be useful in a future recording even with the GB limits.
Drum Tuning 7 years ago
I'm certainly no expert on the subject but I can suggest this: assuming you are buying the drum set from a music shop that you will physically go to to make the purchase rather than on the internet, I think you should ask one of the knowledgeable salesmen there to show you. It'll likely make more sense with someone actually demonstrating and explaining it right in front of you and with the actual kit you are going to be buying than it would if someone tried to explain in an online forum.

Not to say that someone here who knows how couldn't give you some good basic info but don't forget to ask the dude at the store who sold the expensive set to you.
Adjusting Tempo 7 years ago
hangtime wrote:
5ive wrote:
i am still unable to change the tempo of the song


Note the Checkbox that's mentioned:

http://www.bulletsandbones.com/GB/GBFAQ.html#changeimportedtempo


Ahhh, so it IS a GB3 feature to have an on/off button for following time and pitch adjustments.

GB2 it just always adjusts.

THanks, Hang
Adjusting Tempo 7 years ago
bentleymrx wrote:
Pgreenstone, how about the segment that are blue?
u know some of those blue segments sometimes didn't responde either...


The blue segments are loops. They should always respond to changes you make to the tempo. GB automatically conforms loops to play at the tempo set in your mix. I work in GB2, so unless there is some extra feature in GB3 that makes that work differently then I don't know why your loops aren't responding.
USB to FIREWIRE 7 years ago
bentleymrx wrote:
u know i have a similar problem about using USB for GB.
i've had create music about a year with using a Yamaha Keyboard, it's actually work for the midi in (from keyboard to GB) but as you know in GB it doesn't have to much instrument software (more horns type, more strings type, more guitar type, etc.) but in keyboard it does have a lot of different type of
any instrument, the problem is i can't play those sounds that can be produce by my keyboard with the same sounds on GB cause in GB doesn't have to much variety of the intruments, to put it simple in my keyboard it have fusionbass but if play it on GB it wont be played the same sound cause does't have the fusionbass choise on the instrument software list.
So is there anyone know how to solve these problem?


GB may not come with a lot of software instruments but you can certainly get tons of software instruments available out there to install in GB. There are the various Apple Jam Packs and then there are various sites out there where you can find pretty much any instrument/sound you can imagine. Lots of free stuff as well as stuff you have to purchase. I can't name aprticular site off the top of my head but a Google search should give you plenty of results, or some others here can give you links to their favorite sites.

If you just want the sound from your keyboard and you don't need it to be an active editable midi track in GB then you could do as henessjon was suggesting and use the analog audio output from your keyboard rather than the midi out and record it as a regular audio track.

But my recommendation is that you install more instruments that you'd like to use in GB.
Crackling sound when using AUMatrixReverb on MacBook 7 years ago
I've experienced that problem with the AuMatrix causing a crackling before in GB1 and 2, generally only at times when it was used in a project with a lot of other tracks and effects. I don't believe I have ever had it get mixed down into the export though. I've only had it happen during GB playback.

It is an annoyance to listen to when it happens but at least I never get it in the end. On those occasions when I have had the crackling I just lock the track (if I'm not currently editing it) and then it sounds fine. Apparently just a problem processing in real time.

Strange problem though. Not consistant, at least not for me. Sometimes a much heavier mix that includes some use of AuMatrix reverb plays fine while a relatively lighter one might start crackling.

I've never had any of the other effects cause the crackling.
Hum removal 7 years ago
While messing with the EQ to find the hum might be a little tedious it really shouldn't take all that long to go through the frequencies to find it. It's going to be the same hum throughout the video, so once you find it you'll have it. Just adjust the individual band controls one by one until you come across one that seems to be affecting the hum, then go from there.

Generally, the most audible parts of hums tend to be in the lower end frequencies. Particularly for video audio situations (rather than music) you can significantly reduce unwanted noise like hums without doing anything detrimental to the overall sound.

While there are indeed tools out there such as the Final Cut hum remover that can simplify the process of both finding and removing, doing it manually with EQ/tonal controls should take a matter of minutes rather than months. Some types of noise can be much harder to remove but I've usually found hums reasonably easy to remove because they are mostly out of the way in that lower frequency.

I hope that helps.
iMovie Dimension 7 years ago
You basically have only a few fixed resolutions you can work within iMovie, DV (standard NTSC or PAL) or High Definition (1,920x1,080 or 1,280x720). When you start a new iMovie project you are given a choice of what format you want to work in. The highest resolution you can edit in in iMovie is HDV 1080i (1,080 pixels verticle resolution), which is quite a lot larger than your original movie. The lower-resolution HD, HDV 720 (720 pixels verticle resolution) is the closest to your original video's size; it's the same horizontal resolution but smaller vertically. I suggest you select that format for your iMovie project. These resolutions are intended to fit certain video standards.

If you really must have your video exactly the same resolution as it was originally created then you will need a more advanced video editing program. If all you want to do is convert it to another format then you could do that with Quicktime Pro.
recording acoustic guitar problem 7 years ago
Yes, you need to get a preamp for that mic. You can either get a separate preamp device or you can get an audio interface that also has preamp inside. There are a lot to choose from and I hardly have experience with enough of them to say what's the best. But I can tell you what I use. I have an M-Audio 410 firewire interface which has built-in preamp which I can also bypass when I want to. It has a very good clean sound. But for recording my vocals I use an ART Tube Preamp/Compressor and then run from there into the interface. I like having hardware compression, particularly the tone of the tubes.

As far as trying to get the best out of what you have already recorded and bumping up the volume, well, you can just double or even triple the track in GB to build up the volume. If you want you can then solo those dupe tracks and mix them down (export to iTunes) to one track and import that back in (then delete the original quiet tracks you don't need anymore).

You can also use the overdrive effect to boost the volume, though that tends to add even more noise to the signal.

In the end, anything you do to make a quiet recording louder is going to also make the signal noise louder and not sound nearly as good as if it had been recorded well in the first place. But in some cases it'll work well enough.

Good luck.
Can't shorten PodCast 7 years ago
If you are going to use the cycle in/out bar to mark in and out of your project for exporting then, yes, the cycle button needs to be turned on. It has to be on for the cycle bar to even be visible in the timeline. I'm not sure what you mean by "stretching the cycle button over the text".

Anyway, you can also just use the regular timeline OUT marker, too. Just put it at the end of the audio in the timeline.
MUGshot Presents: 7 years ago
Hey, thanks for putting me in there. That was a nice surprise. I really appreciate it.
Album art 7 years ago
I always include my art in the audio file itself with the tags and lyrics.
Echo Effect 7 years ago
Uh, yeah, you might want to consider using actual echo effects...? Whatever program you are using, it should take just a few seconds to find that effect as well as a host of others and their controls.
Exporting to iTunes. 7 years ago
How much RAM do you have?

What do your levels meters show when you are playing it in GB? Are the tracks and/or the master levels riding in the red?

I have a G5 dual 2.5GHz with 2 gigs RAM. I use GB2 and have been able to work with 20 tracks or more without experiencing a problem like that, though some minor issues have come up when pushing it.
Adjusting Tempo 7 years ago
If you have tracks with audio you imported in rather than recording IN GB (segments that are yellow) they will not respond to tempo changes like the purple segments and midi tracks will. You can change the yellow segments to a purple ones by selecting them and pressing...

control-option-G.

That will make those audio segments that you imported behave like the ones recorded in GB, reacting to tempo change and some other functions.

It's a totally hidden feature in GB that is not mentioned anywhere in the documentation as far as I can tell. Why they would hide such an important function is beyond me. I learned that from another person at iComp (sorry, I can't recall who).
Donate button moved 7 years ago
Uplink wrote:
but when i click on the button it goes to an error page. also since i have not ever cliked it.... does it auto maticly bring you to the page for that person?


I experienced the same exact problem yesterday when I decided to test mine. There isn't actually a place to specify what your Paypal account is in the prefs. Because of that I assumed that it was determined to be the same as one's email set in prefs. For a lot of people that might not be the case. Anyway, I actually had my email in iComp set to the same one that is my PayPal account, but it still doesn't work.

I sent the admins a note to ask about it.
USB to FIREWIRE 7 years ago
I don't know if there is such a device (probably) but I'd bet that using such a device would not undo the latency that is already established going out as USB from the original device. It may possibly even make it worse.

Someone else might be able to tell you for sure though.
I need help... 7 years ago
Not that there aren't better options out there but you can program drums in Garage Band.

You can use a midi keyboard controller, use your computer keyboard, or do as I do and write it in hit per hit in the editor.
2 free Gigs HD space 7 years ago
Also, all those printer drivers that get installed with the OS waste a ton of space.
program delete help? 7 years ago
I can't think of a particular one but I know I have come across such programs in the past at http://www.versiontracker.com/macosx/. Do a search for "uninstaller" and you should get some results.

But when I want to make sure I get all the parts of an application removed I just use the OSX Spotlight search function with the name of the application I want to obliterate. That'll likely be as thorough as any third-party program uninstaller (not specifically made for the application at issue) would be.
my song is too long! 7 years ago
There's no loss of quality converting to aiff. Aiff is not compressed. All the audio you are working with in GB (other than midi) is aiff. But there is a loss of quality when you convert to mp3 or other compressed format and that quality loss will not be undone if you convert it back to aiff. If you want to edit the mixed-down tune you should do the normal export and then bring the exported aiff back into GB like you said. But there would be no conversion needed as it would already be an aiff. When you export your GB music to iTunes you aren't converting it, you are mixing it down to a single audio file, bu it's still full quality uncompressed audio such as you would have on a commercial CD.

I'm not sure what it is you want to do though. You say your song is too long. What do you want to remove to make it shorter? I'm sure you would be better off working in your original GB project to do that. You'll have much better control over how you shorten it rather than just cutting it on/off or fading it in/out somewhere.

You just want to remove the beginning? If you turn the repeat button on in GB you will see a yellow bar up top that you can move and stretch to select the section you want to repeat over and over again in the GB playback, but it also will work as an in/out marker(if turned on) when you export. That way you can remove from the beginning without having to slide everything over all the way to the left. It gives yout the in point that the timeline doesn't normally give you.
What to buy 7 years ago
It's great that your parents are being supportive.

It all depends on what you want to do. What sorts of things do you want to be able to record? Do you want to be able to record more than one instrument at a time, perhaps even a whole band?

There are a lot of choices out there in equipment and software but what you will really need will depend on what you want to be able to do. You can get a good interface with multiple line and midi inputs and built-in preamps. You can get something much less expensive that work just as well for you if you only need a single line in.

Do you want to record vocals, guitar, drums, or other live instruments? Is there anything Logic Express can't do for you that you feel the Pro version would be required for? You might save a lot of money sticking with LE which is already quite powerful and then spending that money on a better mic or other item you need more. You might be surprised how much you can still do even with just Garage Band (not to say that getting into Logic isn't a better choice for you in the long run).

It all depends on what you want to do to make your music. You could potentially go way overkill for what you really need or end up cutting youself short.
Music Software 7 years ago
The feel doesn't come from the software. It comes from you. You can use the same software to make all sorts of music.

If there is a specific thing you want to do there may be certain programs, plugins, devices, or techniques people can recommend though.
The Moods of music 7 years ago
There are countless ways to create the intended emotion. It's not that a formula won't work. It's that a formula is a very limited and narrow way of doing it. Relying on formula rather than instinct seems more attuned to factory work than art.
BLEEDING Problems 7 years ago
henessjon wrote:
I also get bleeding using this setup

Mac= Garageband2= using any of the gb plugins after about laying down 5 tracks. I notice less bleeding with less use of effects,

I dont get hissing just very low but perceptible bleeding of othertracks on the solo'd track


Thats why I use pro tools even though GB is a lot easier.


I've never experienced anything like that before. From what you are saying it sounds like you must be experienceing some kind of a problem with GB itself either in its playback of solo tracks or recording. Very strange.

To confirm that the bleeding is actually recorded into the track in question pan the track all the way to one side. Does all of the sound including the bleed noise get panned as well? If not, then it suggests that the bleed is not actually recorded into the track but is only being heard in the playback as if the other tracks are somehow not being completely muted.

I really can't imagine how GB effects/plugins would cause the bleed but maybe something buggy going on that defies normal behavior.
how do ya guys do collaborations? 7 years ago
henessjon wrote:

I just downloaded your song hey and its an mp3, so its the standard to just drop that as it is into GB and add only?


Collaboration doesn't just mean taking someone else's tune from the site, downloading it, and adding your own thing to it. That can be one form of collaboration (assuming the original artist gave you permission) but it's hardly the only or "standard" way. It can be infinitely more involved than that. You can work on a song from the beginning with another person. You can bothe be involved in various aspects of the production and creation. It all depends on what you want to do. It's as open to possibility as the very definition of the word collaboration.

In a case like you seem to be suggesting, to just add vocals to an otherwise complete tune, you could use their downloaded mp3 as a temporary backing track in GB to record your vocals to, but then the best thing to do is send an aiff of just your new vocal track back to them and have them mix it in with the original.

If you are going to do the final mix of your vocals and their music then you should at least have an original aiff of their mixed-down tune to work with instead of the compressed mp3.

Quote:
As a point of interest I now see and hear that the downloaded mp3 is a better quality than what you hear as play online file.

192kbps at 44.1 khz

Um, no. What you download is exactly the same thing you were listening to on the iComp page. If you are listening to the downloaded file in iTunes it may sound better just because iTunes has an equalizer and the web player does not. But it's the same file with the same bitrate and all.
BLEEDING Problems 7 years ago
Have you confirmed that the bleeding isn't coming from your headphones by recording without wearing the headphones or even plugging them in? Unless you have sound also coming out of your speakers then I don't know where bleed from other tracks that are playing back would possibly come from.

It would sure help if you would actually tell us what you are doing, what your setup is. I'm just shooting in the dark.

Quote:
and it's not just 'real instruments' either...even when I record direct
I have no idea what you mean here. What do you mean by "recording direct"?

I assume this isn't the case because then you wouldn't be wondering where the bleed is coming from... but are you talking about getting bleed from tracks that are already recorded that you are listening back to while recording another part to or are you talking about recording two tracks at a time, say, like recording vocals and guitar at the same time? If, by chance, it's the latter then it has nothing to do with headphones or speakers; it's the vocal mic picking up some of the guitar too and the guitar mic (unless using internal) picking up some of your vocals. Nothing you can do to avoid that other than to record them seperately.

So, tell us how are you recording and what are you recording?

In any case, there's not much you can do to remove that from your recording after the fact without compromising the quality of the recording overall.
Compressing GB files 7 years ago
Also, sometimes GB seems to forget to remove the no-longer-used audio files for the locked tracks after you unlock them. To make sure those big useless scraps are gone select your .band file (package), right-click and select "Show Package Contents". Then go into the "Freeze Files" folder in the window that has popped up. That's where the locked track mixdown audio files go. You can delete everything in there and save lots of wasted girth.

Don't touch anything in the "Media" folder.

That said, often times GB projects can be many hundreds of MB worth of necessary data that is all being used even with no tracks locked. It all depends on the nature of you project.
how do ya guys do collaborations? 7 years ago
Actually, the best way to transfer files back and forth is with iChat or with one of those file transferring sites (can't recall the name of any particular one right now) so you don't both need to be online at the same time. Email accounts will usually limit your files to 5mb while if you use iChat you can sent files virtually any size. You're going to want to transfer your final material as aiff and that's certainly going to be more than email will allow.

I use iChat when the other collaborator is online but I also have a .mac account with a 2gig iDisk that I can use to hold files that they can download at their leisure.

Using .zip on GB files and aiffs before transferring is also a good idea. It will comress them considerably and nondestructively.
New to Garageband 7 years ago
Have you considered checking the Garage Band prefs?
how to copy one bar with notes from one song to another? 7 years ago
Yep, that's it.
how to copy one bar with notes from one song to another? 7 years ago
jlgerk wrote:
I may have missed it, but, just send what you want to copy into iTunes. Then drag THAT file into your other song


You don't have to bounce it to iTunes. As others have already said, you can copy audio or midi regions, open another GB project, and then past them into new tracks there. Unfortunately you can't copy the whole track itself with all the track settings AND the audio, but you can always save the track as a preset and then select that preset for the new track you just pasted in to get the settings you were using back.

More tedious than it should have to be but still pretty easy.
Song Metadata 7 years ago
People should be filling out that data themselves before uploading. I know some people leave it all blank and it drives me nuts when I download a tune and there is no artist name on it. It's bad for the artist and for the listener who downloads it.

I don't know if I like the idea of some automatic system filling in the info or changing it because I can imagine how it could get it different from how the artist intended. But something clear and bold on the upload page next to where you select your file could say "BE SURE TO FILL IN YOUR ARTIST NAME AND OTHER INFO IN YOUR SONG FILE'S METADATA BEFORE UPLOADING". Maybe even include a hyperlink to a more detailed explanation of what that means for people who don't know.
GBII and GBIII. Brothers from different mothers. 7 years ago
GB3 is not backwards compatible with GB2. If you have GB3 on your laptop then why not also install it on your desktop G5?
best acoutic guitar sound 7 years ago
I record two tracks of my Taylor guitar at once, one using an AudioTechnica condensor mic and the other using the internal. I pan them apart and EQ them differently, making sur to reduce the lower bass from the internal which otherwise would be quite boomy and thuddy. I've found that mixing the two gives me a particularly rich sound and spreading them out gives it a beautiful stereo space. The specific settings and reverb effects vary from situation to situation but the concept of recording both at once remains the same.
Vocals recorded only on the left 7 years ago
Your mic is a mono source. If you tell GB to treat it as a stereo source (2 channels) it will give you sound on one side and silence on the other because your mic is plugged into one channel and nothing is in the other. Generally, stereo mics are only used with film and video cameras or field recorders but not in recording music.

So, your mic is mono as is your electric guitar for that matter. Select mono single channel for its track's source. You MAKE it stereo in how you mix it and use stereo effects on it.
Final Mixdown on GB 7 years ago
If you just select "export to iTunes" in the menu it'll mix it down as an aiff. Only GB3 has any options to possibly save in other preset formats other than aiff and that's a whole other menu option.

As others have said, if you want to mixdown all you tracks individually then you will have to do it one track at a time. There is no feature for doing that in one step.
eco 7 years ago
Not a whole lot you can do. You can try the dynamics effect to set a soft gate that will cut off the trailing echo but that won't help with the echo during the vocals. It sort of depends on how bad it is and also how much the music might cover up the inadequacies of the fix. It's really important to get it right in the recording. Even if you aren't in a soundproof booth you can get a good dry recording if you are in at least a room with carpet and fabric furniture to dampen sound and you are good and close to the mic. The further away from the mic you are the more of the room's acoustics will be picked up.

But barring any abuility to improve your recording situation do try the dynamics control. You'll have to mess with the settings to find the right sensetivity for gating the trailing reverb without making it cut in and out harshly. The regular gate control has no softness so it would likely be obvious when it was clipping out the trailing reverb.
Adding EFX to section of GB track 7 years ago
As jlgerk said, you need to use another track. GB doesn't allow for controlling effects settings over time or setting an effect such as reverb to only sections of a track. You have to set one track with the reverb you want to selectively use and another without it and then fade between the two to control it.

And, unfortunately, you can't hear the lead in on a track you are overdubbing so you have to duplicate the track and record the new take there. I think that's what you were talking about. You certainly can hear all the other tracks playing back while recording though.

GB's simplicity sometimes can be a pain but there's usually a good workaround.
keyboard and garageband 7 years ago
jlgerk wrote:
will that still work hooked up USB, or would it need to be "Line In" ??


I guess that depends on whether or not the keyboard is designed to send both audio and midi data through the USB. If there's not a button on the keyboard for switching I suppose the next thing to do is to try playing it into a real instrument track and seeing if you get the audio.

The key thing to keep in mind is that midi (virtual instrument) tracks will only record controller info; there is no place for actual audio to record. To record the actual sound from the keyboard you need to send audio (not midi) from it into a live instrument track.
Help with Garageband Length... 7 years ago
It would be nice if a programmer over at Apple would spend a coffee break to fix that digit limit. They could probably still have time to drink their coffee afterwards.
keyboard and garageband 7 years ago
If you want to use the sounds on the keyboard you have to use the audio line out from it not the midi out. And you have to be recording it to a real instrument track in GB. Midi is just controller data, no sound involved.
Garage Band Unexpectely quit before it even opened 7 years ago
Have you successfully used Garage Band before? Did you change anything since the last time it worked, assuming it once worked? Have you used the disk utility to fix permissions on your system drive? Have you tried reinstalling it?

Are you just getting that message but the program runs fine otherwise?
Can I change instruments in music with Garageband 3? 7 years ago
Do you mean you want to import complete songs and change them, like take a track from a CD you have and change the guitar part to piano or put some effect on just one instrument or something like that?

Short answer... no, you can't. It's all mixed together already. It would be like trying to un-bake a cake.

That said, there are interesting things you can do with songs by adding to them and cutting them up. You can add more instruments and percussion and add effects (though they will affect everything). Knowing the beats-per-minute (bpm) and time signature of the music will be key in you being able to work with it, especially if you want to use loops.

If you're just playing around and having fun with it there's no issue but you can't post it to iComp afterwards unless you own the rights to the original music or were given explicit permission from the artist.

I think you'll have a better time of it if you just work on original music rather than trying to change existing songs from your mp3 or CD collection. You can make all sorts of things just using loops if you don't play an instrument or know how to write for one. It's a good place to start. You can eventually start writing your own beats and melodies using the software instrument track editor, or you can record yourself playing a real instrument or singing or banging pots and pans together. It's all fun and you may discover with time that you have more talent than you once thought.
Help save my song! 7 years ago
The levels meters are there for a reason. If it's blowing out in the loud parts and you see that your tracks are riding in the red then it's pretty clear your levels are set too high. How to fix? Well, lower the levels on the tracks until they are no longer riding in the red.

The problem with using Audacity or any other application to modify the audio after you mix it down from GB is that you will have already recorded a blown out version of the tune. Nothing can fix that damage after the fact. Normalizing it may make it more quiet but it will just be a quiet distorted version.

Really need to get the levels right and avoid clipping from the start.
moving GB files safely? 7 years ago
Hmm... did you remove plugins that you had been using? The "Archive" option only resolves the "audio file not found" problem as far as I know. Having it not find a plugin sounds like perhaps the plugin is no longer installed or perhaps was moved to a different location. If that's the case, perhaps reinstalling the plugin in the proper location will make it work.

As far as .band packages that have already gotten messed up goes, well, the "missing" audio is likely still inside the .band package but it's just not being found. I don't know a way to fix those once they have lost their internal connections. Manually going inside and trying to identify the audio clips can be a nearly impossible task the way things are named in the media folder within.

I hope it works out for you.
moving GB files safely? 7 years ago
Use the "Save As Archive" option in GB. It makes the project self contained so parts don't get lost. (Not to be confused with the finder "archive" option that compresses files as .zip)
Dynamics in GB 7 years ago
Yes, using the expression controls in the individual midi tracks is the way to go. Raising and lowering the volume of a track does not take advantage of the velocity samples of the instruments. When a real instrument is played louder it also makes a different sound, the tone and texture and timbre changes. This applies to strings, brass, woodwinds, piano, percussion, and most other instruments.

The expression control is used similarly to the volume automation in controlling the track over time. The result of this control IS volume change but volume change due to an actual change in the performance of the instrument, how strongly the bow is pulled over the strings, how hard the drum is hit, and so on. The expression control basically is modifying the velocity of notes in the track over time, each note's velocity being modified by % of its individual velocity setting by the expression control "curve". That's probably is a little complicated of an explanation but that's about the best I can do. If you play around with it I think it will explain itself.

Working in the volume control for the master track will affect everything at once which may come in handy in places but really you want to be controlling your instruments more on a track-by-track basis, and for a more truly dynamic and realistic performance from your orchestral instruments you will be wanting to be working with the expression control.

If you are composing using a midi keyboard then the notes' individual velocities will be determined by how hard you are pressing the keys. If you work like I do and compose by writing in each note in the editor using the pencil tool then you have to manually set each note's velocity.

This piece of mine was done in that manner
http://www.icompositions.com/music/song.php?sid=53879

In the end you will likely want to be using a combination of controls to affect the dynamics of your piece. But the most natural and effective work will be done by working track by track and using velocity and expression control rather than mere volume control.

If you have Jam Pack 4 or an even better orchestral instrument library to work with you will find the instruments may be far more expressive than you thought, each note having a variety of sampled performances from soft to hard and even some special samples.
I cant export without making it terribly soft 7 years ago
How is converting to 192kbps being a "daredevil"? That's actually the quality level most people use for mp3's that they upload to music sites like this because it's higher quality. Some people (not I) might argue that the fidelity improvement above 128kbps for mp3's is negligible but I've never heard anyone suggest before that going up from 128 to 163 or even 198 was increasing some kind of risk to the quality. Quite the opposite.

In any case it sounds like Shapiro is having some problem unrelated to mp3 conversion. I'd assume he hadn't even gotten to that step, first having discovered that his aiff file that exported from GB was sounding all messed up.
How to adapt Master Track? 7 years ago
Not quite sure what you're asking. If you're wanting to shift the overall key of the GB project midway well, there's no way to do that in the master settings. You can transpose the notes of midi loops if you want manually or by using the pitch control in the editor. If you are dealing with an audio file loop rather than midi/software instrument then you can also shift the pitch in the editor but it will likely require chopping it up and shifting different parts in different ways, and if it's a part with chords you will be even more limited in what you can do to shift keys.

Really, the best way to go if you like to use melodic loops is to supplement the premade loops with original material when you want to diverge from the pre-made path like that and can't find an alternative loop to fit your need.

I may very well be misunderstanding your question completely. It's pretty hard to tell exactly what you are trying to do but I have some ideas I think... maybe.

Am I gettig it basically right that your are using loops and you want to be able to easily shift keys and/or to diverge from the progression pattern somewhere in the midst of the piece but can't find a way to do it without manually changing it note-by-note?
I cant export without making it terribly soft 7 years ago
Yeah, going into the red a little here and there is fine. Really only a problem when it's really riding hard in the red.

Strange.... The only other thing I can think of to try would be to lock the tracks. Maybe GB is getting overwhelmed trying to mixdown all the effects at once. Normally that shouldn't be a problem, especially if it's handling it all fine in real-time in GB playback.

Is it doing this to all your GB mixes or just this particular tune? Is there an older tune that you successfully mixed down in GB in the past that you could try mixing down again now? Does it mixdown the same as it did in the past or is it screwed up like the current mix you are working on?

I don't know why it would do what it's doing in any case but I might help you to narrow it down.
Burning to CD 7 years ago
Guys, he's burning an audio CD. The files on Audio CD's, burned at home or bought at the music store, are aiff. If one is going to make an audio CD of one's music then it should be made using the original uncompressed aiff. Converting it to mp3 or ACC beforehand needlessly damages the fidelity of the audio (even if only minutely); it's still going to be saved as aiff and take up as much space on the audio CD, only now it's quality will be reduced. (ACC and mp3 compression is irreversable, unlike .zip)

Not the end of the world but my point is that, given the option, one should burn audio CD's using the best quality source possible, that being the original aiff not a compressed copy.

I don't know if iTunes uses the import settings for aiff format when burning audio CD's or not but you should leave those settings on the default automatic.

Actually, this brings up another question: Are you using iTunes to burn the CD or are you using Toast or some other program?
I cant export without making it terribly soft 7 years ago
The way you would normally have the levels set does the master levels meter show normal volume, staying just below the red, or do the levels meters suggest that you are peaking despite it sounding fine to you in GB?

Does the mixed-down aiff from GB sound bad if you play it back in the Quicktime player, too? That will determine if iTunes is possibly the problem rather than GB.
Burning to CD 7 years ago
The speed most professional shops that produce audio CD-R's burn their CD's at no more than 8x. Yeah, it's slow but it's what they recommend for reliability.

And, just to be precise, when you imported tunes off of your commercial CD's were they converted in the process or did you import them unconverted in their original aiff format? I'm just trying to clear up all variables. I assume you are using the aiff you got from GB. It could potentially make a big difference but you haven't mentioned anything yet about the format of the audio files being used.
Burning to CD 7 years ago
Hmm, that's odd. So, when you listen to the mixed down aiff it sounds fine? I'm not sure how it could be something that GB is doing but if the problem is only heard on CD tracks that are from GB mixdowns then it suggests GB might be the culprit.

Other than the difference of a file being a mixdown from GB and a file being from some other source is there anything else different about the files you burn to CD that are from GB and the files that are from elsewhere? Are they both being stored on the same drive? Are the other audio files you are burning to CD also aiff's or are they mp3's or other format or a variety of types?

And, just to make sure, you're burning a regular audio CD, right, not an mp3 CD?

In any case, I don't know why it would cause the noise problem but it might help narrow down the source of the cause.

At what speed are you burning the CD's? Perhaps it's trying to burn too fast? Though, I'd expect that to result in unreadable tracks rather than noise, but who knows.
Is there a video equivalent to iComp? 7 years ago
JaMen wrote:
I'm tired of arguing this. Back to the topic: Is there an equivalent to icomp for video?


Who's arguing?
Is there a video equivalent to iComp? 7 years ago
iMovie or even Final Cut Express are as much video equivilants to GB as one could ask for. You could use iMovie without a camera if you really wanted; you could edit animation if you wanted or make some kind of montage out of found video clips. (I work as an animator and have used video editing programs many times to edit animations) But, essentially, having a video camera, hell even just the video option in a cell phone or digital still camera is just in the nature of the medium.
Reducing Vocal Noise 7 years ago
Depends what you mean by "noise". Is it noise being picked up from the room like the computer's fan, an air conditioner, or other general noise in the room or do you mean line noises like general hiss, hums, and/or buzzing?

As was advised above, the most effective thing is to avoid the noise in the first place using Deversion's tips. Also, if it's line noise, better and/or shorter cables that are better insulated and less exposed to power cables and equipment nearby will help. Genrally better quality sound equipment will produce much less line noise than the cheap stuff. Also, some households might have electricals that just aren't grounded well and cause noise signals to come right from the outlet. (Sometimes turning off a light or a charger or something somewhere in the house will clean it up.

Gating, EQ, and other things can clean it up after the fact to some extent but it usually will also diminish the clarity of the audio at the same time
Burning to CD 7 years ago
Well, before even getting to the CD burning part have you listened to the mixed down audio file GB produced? Did you hear the sound there? If you didn't hear any noise there then it must have happened after GB. Because you describe the crackling as getting progrssively worse as it goes from track to track on the CD you burned suggests that the problem is likely in your CD mastering/burning process, not GB.

On the other hand, GB sometimes causes some crackling sounds, usually only in playback within GB but sometimes it gets mixed down with it (usually an annoying unwanted sound but nothing loud enough to drown anything out). In my experience the crackling was caused (and only occasionally at most) by the use of Matrix Reverb on one or more tracks. Usually not a problem but sometimes it seems to do that. The solution I found when that happened was to lock the track so GB would do a premix of the track and no longer have to process the effect.

But a key thing to remember when trying to figure out a problem like this is to not just make assumptions without actually looking into it. In this case, listen to the aiff GB exported in iTunes or in a Quicktime player to confirm the music was mixed down and exported the way it should be BEFORE you bother burning a CD. That will tell you a lot about the problem and it will also save a lot of time and CD's.
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