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I'm rather new with DAW. GarageBand is my first program to use and I've enjoyed it thoroughly. However, I find a lot of limitations in this software. One thing I'm missing is grouping tracks together.
Should I take the $199 plunge and go for Logic Pro?
Will I be able to import the songs I've created in GarageBand into Logic Pro?
I appreciate your advice in advance!
Mark |
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Jul 17, 2012 | 1:57 pm |
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Logic Pro is called thus, because it is a Pro App, and is obviously much better than Garageband, with many more bells and whistles including better FX, more loops and software instruments, more synth modules and a much better mixing experience. But, it runs the same Core Audio as Garageband, which is the whole reason Apple bought eMagic in the first place... Garageband is a great entry level DAW and can do many things, but Logic is better!
You will find Logic a steep learning curve up from Garageband, but it is well worth investing that time to make it happen. Logic can open Garageband files, as long as your versions are compatible, so these days I find myself working in Logic and Garageband in tandem. I often start projects in GB and then do the final mix and production in Logic, because I find setting up tracks etc and the whole recording/midi process much easier in GB, but using Logic for final mix and production gives me more to play with and much more control over the final results!
And now, you get all of the Apple Jam Packs, including Voices and Orchestral et al, which are worth the $199 in their own rights! If you can afford it and have the time to learn, take the plunge, you won't be disappointed! |
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Jul 17, 2012 | 2:46 pm |
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I second all that 8MM said. Logic Pro is a great DAW. |
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Jul 17, 2012 | 4:07 pm |
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Also, if you do live shows and get Logic, for $30 more get MainStage 2. It's an Apple product which integrates with Logic and makes your computer a controller for the whole band or just you with or without your own accompanying tracks, etc.
I've not personally used it yet, though a musical partner of mine uses it in LA during gigs. He loves it. |
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Jul 17, 2012 | 7:25 pm |
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I Second 8MonthMalfunction above
In 2006 i took a pro advise from a studio recording engineer
and got an apple 17inch book with Logic6 by that time
glad i did, it was painful hours spent learning and working the
program but all worth it if you're into quality sound production |
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Jul 22, 2012 | 7:11 am |
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I also like to start Projects in Garageband,
because i am much faster getting a result and recording my music with it.
Don´t have to stop and read some manual, which is killing the creative process.
But later on, i also use to load the result into Logic for mixing and mastering. Funny Thing: Garageband is taking more of my CPU-Power as Logic ! |
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Jul 24, 2012 | 11:56 am |
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I've used GB a lot, and switched to Logic mostly because I found the audio editor too limited in resolution, and limitative. Then I also realized the native GB plugins are sometimes _very_ basic. You're limited to 4 insert and 1 send effects in GB, so it may be difficult to find a workaround with external plugins. I'm still working a bit with GB, but Logic is not much more difficult once you know it a little, so in practice there are few reasons to use GB instead, although recording may be slightly easier.
If you're very clean, patient, and cautious you can live very well with GarageBand - although it may be exhausting. It is much better than what the Beatles had for Sgt Pepper's, anyway…If you switch just one thing: don't believe the Logic manual for GB users, it may be very misleading. |
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Jul 25, 2012 | 7:19 am |
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I know I have probably said this in another forum post a while ago but in case someone did not read it...
Garageband is a brilliant software. It is free. It is user friendly. It is great. But. It has its limitations then you experience sooner or later.
Logic can do everything. It used to be expensive but since it was introduced to the App Store the price is incredibly low compared to similar software.
But Logic has a lurning curve and can be intimidating at first glance. And the manual and misc books almost makes things worse.
The best would be to have an experienced user with good teaching skills taking you through the tool to give the overview. Unless you know such a guy the 2nd best is to take a good online training. That is what I did and it is the best thing I ever did in my path from ignorant to happy Logic Pro user.
I highly recommend MacProVideo's Logic Pro training.
I do not have any economic interests in the company. I am just a satisfied customer. They have two programs. Either a subscription which cost 25 USD per month and gives access to all training. Or you can buy the training for download at a fixed price which you can then see anytime you want in future. I personally hated the idea of subscription and I have purchased the training for download. You can get discounts if you buy many at the same time. And they OFTEN have promotions at half price. There is a lot of training for Logic but the training I recommend is the basic overview course called Logic 101 Core Logic.
It cost 20 dollars for download and gives the beginner user an excellent walkthrough of Logic. It is this one 20 dollar training I recommend if you get Logic. It gives you a jump start you will treasure for years to come. And by buying it for download you can always go back to see individual sections when needed.
http://www.macprovideo.com/tutorial/logic9101 |
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Jul 25, 2012 | 2:32 pm |
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Kenneth, I just love that advice - you've told it exactly as it is, with proper names for everything, rather than some mysterious non-commital adivce, and this will help so many people. Including myself, if I'm ever to get over my fear of Logic! Thank you  |
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Jul 25, 2012 | 2:35 pm |
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I'll second what Kenneth has said -- those Mac Pro Video tutorials are excellent and well worth the price. I also use Garageband to start a recording (usually the MIDI and vocal tracks), and then finish up in Logic (and now that I have an electric guitar, that's where I record my guitar parts... with my sub-adequate guitar playing, Logic's varispeed and quick swipe comping make me almost adequate!) for many of the same reasons people before me have stated. |
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Jul 25, 2012 | 2:52 pm |
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Obviously, the winner is Logic. Take the time to learn it, and reap the benefits. So many pluses to this DAW, it's hard to begin at a specific spot.
All I have to say is, don't be intimidated by all the buttons! haha
You'll get use to it! |
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Mar 27, 2013 | 8:19 pm |
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Now that I've learned it. (It is a steep learning curve.) I LOVE Logic. It is one of those programs that you can just keep going deeper and deeper. Spend the time with it and reap the benefits. (For me it was years, but it was during a time that I didn't have a lot of time for music.) |
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Mar 28, 2013 | 12:52 am |
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Kenneth said it
& logic can take your mixing skills to unchartered territories
it can bend the way you like it to be
Best i have ever came across
started with logic6 years ago & i still learn every time i use it
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Mar 28, 2013 | 5:22 am |
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Hi morkie, I group tracks together in GB by muting tracks I don't want grouped, then export the tracks I want grouped to itunes, then drag the 1411 kbps grouped tracks back into GB as one track.
Logic is great too and is a superior product but there's usually a way to do things in GB if the user is creative. |
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Mar 29, 2013 | 2:08 pm |
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I have used a lot f different DAWs but have come down to using Logic pro 9 for everything, scoring, live recording, midi recording, drum programming, and lyric writing(note pad). It takes a while to learn the score editor but once you do it is pretty simple. All I can say is read the manual and search and ask questions at the forum: http://www.logicprohelp.com/forum/
They are a great bunch of guys and very helpful, as are you guys here.
My two cents. |
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May 12, 2013 | 12:23 pm |
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