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To me the love of sound was there from ever early
Always been fascinated by new & different sound tones exotic & i find magical
& yes i feel music
I can breathe it
yes i can read it
Attended music school & took classic lessons
but couldnt' be confined to the discipline
I hated the long practicing hours
for pieces of music i didn't like
it simply killed my groove
& lost my desire with school
I second Cees
It all start with a bed groove
(rhythm & chord key)
the setting before the melodies & lead join in
At least this always been my approach
Sometimes a melody comes out from the blue
& then one can add rhythm
Also could be
Muse happen in many ways |
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Aug 08, 2012 | 8:40 am |
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| ihussain wrote: | | thank you all for your great contributions. I did respond to the early ones on my blog entry, but I just wanted to say again how astonished I am that John (@soulima) notates directly using a program, rather than playing the notes via a keyboard. |
I do that as well, and with the guitar chords I then go in and hand-arpeggiate the notes to simulate up and down strumming. |
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Aug 08, 2012 | 1:14 pm |
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Art is pointless. That is how I approach acting, music, drawing; all of my "talents." I don't really believe in a creative muse. It is all a coincidence to me. When it doesn't work, I fall into despair. When it does work, I immediately define it as fleeting and easy to recreate by any other artist. And the biggest despair of all is believing that you need to face your faults rather than mask them behind art. I'm too afraid to be a part of reality and so hide in the fallacy of music. Yet I love the suffering only found in reality and despise the insignificance of music.
So, my creative muse, of sorts, comes from the imbalance in the endless struggle to achieve balance. Music is the battle that I will never win. It will always be a passing noise that has no purpose. It will always make fun of me. And it will always be nearby. |
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Aug 09, 2012 | 11:59 pm |
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I've applied my creative impulses to various pursuits since I was a child.
In roughly chronological order:
- sketching, hobby.
Impulses: I like (again, roughly chronologically) trains, boats, dinosaurs, monsters, comic book characters, women, landscapes. I am bored in school and my books need doodles in them.
- music/sound creation/manipulation through tape recorder speed and head modifications, vinyl record and TV sampling, and placement of flat microphone between the neck and strings of an old beat up acoustic K-Mart guitar with its back falling off so that the strings sat in the grooves on the surface of the microphone. Hobby.
Impulses: I want to make noise. what will this sound like? What happens if I do this? Can I make this sound like instrument X? Can I make a noise like musician X?
- mathematics. academic.
Impulses - I want to solve this. What's the answer? Can I solve this? Can I solve this more quickly ? Can I solve this more elegantly? is this true? Is this false? Can I use the fact that A is true/false to prove or disprove Z ?
- cooking. hobby and professionally.
Impulses (hobby-wise at least) : I'm hungry. what can I do with these ingredients? Will this taste like I think it will taste like? what happens if I remove, add, replace this ingredient next time? Does this taste good to me? Will this taste good to others?
- operations research/research & development/analysis. professionally.
Impulses: Is this hypothesis testable? Is this hypothesis true? What would prove this is false? What's a good solution given these constraints? Is there something missing? What's missing? Is there a way to get what's missing? What can I observe that would be true only if what is missing is also true? Are these data sufficient? Is there a more efficient way to do this process? Does this solution please me? Does this solution please others?
- software/systems engineering: professionally.
Impulses: I want to create a solution. Can I use this language/code/library/interface/application/data to provide the solution? Does a solution already exist? Can I create this code and re-use it later on? Is the solution elegant? Can I make this user interface not only functional but pleasing to the eye? Is there a better way? Are my instructions to other engineers understandable and sufficient? Does this solution please me? Does this solution please others?
- team creation. professionally. Initial member selection is like selecting ingredients, selecting instruments or selecting a color palette.
Impulses: I want a great team. Can this team accomplish this effort given my current constraints and objectives? Can these people work together? Does this solution please me? Does this solution please others?
- computer art, hobby
Impulses: I like abstractions consisting of light/dark, textures, shapes/patterns, colors, balance/imbalance. What will this look like if I do this? I want to improvise a piece of graphic art to accompany the music I just created. Does this art please me?
- music, hobby. After not creating music for 20+ years, I got GarageBand. It reignited my interest in creating music.
Impulses: I want to make noise. I want to inspire others to make noise that would be interesting to me. What if I take these loops and do this to them. What will this sound like if I do this? That's an interesting sound. What interesting sound can I create today? I like this riff/bass line/chord/chord sequence/ melody/rhythm that I thought up, let me capture it on the computer before I forget it. Can I capture the sound inside my head? What might it sound like if musicians X and Y were together in a studio? Can I create a piece of music like X? How did producer/musician X make this sound? What will it sound like if I select these instruments and improvise? Does this please me? |
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Aug 14, 2012 | 2:05 pm |
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fascinating thread. seems to be a common factor of feeling somehow driven to create. i certainly am and find that certain experiences or pieces of music or places of natural beauty trigger an idea for a piece of music or a painting or both and i have to respond to the urge, as it were. lyrics i find don't come so easily to me, but i find those that i like are the ones that come to me quickly. |
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Aug 15, 2012 | 5:11 am |
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My two Muses.... Broads and Booze.
...The rest is fiction. |
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Aug 15, 2012 | 8:28 pm |
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@JackFancy - For a few seconds I didn't realise what you meant by "Broads" - I'm thinking "Norfolk Broads", a lovely stretch of English waterways!
@telecaster29 - it's great when another art form, or a beautiful landscape, can inspire you to create a different type of art form, i.e. a musical one. It's interesting that for a lot us on this thread the urge to create happens to be a musical one.
@Mungo - wow, that is a great insight into how you work! Loved all the detail and the choices involved in your day to day decision-making processes. I'm shocked that you didn't make music for 20 years! I think that would have sent me mad.
@ZipZipper - Zip, no muse and a battle that you think you are not going to win? Hard to credit, given your creativity! what is the battle - the feeling that you could do better? Is it like when an artist says they're not happy with their painting, and they don't know when to stop daubing on the paint - just one more brushstroke?
@Beatle128 - ah, someone else who is able to do the point by point entry system of notes too. I've often wondered how one gets a guitar strum using a keyboard.
@RetroTrend - a formal training is always useful, but I can hear what you're saying about the danger of it actually killing the creativity - one can either end up overthinking the musical process, or just be bored to tears by the endless practice, and as a result lose some of the enthusiasm for what should be a joyful experience, making music. |
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Aug 16, 2012 | 9:37 am |
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@JackFancy lol a man after my own heart |
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Aug 16, 2012 | 6:21 pm |
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Broads are one of your muses, too, Vicki?  |
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Aug 16, 2012 | 6:25 pm |
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@ihussain The battle isn't about whether it's good enough. The battle is with music itself. Because I find music worthless and an excuse to keep me busy, I struggle with breaking away and actually being productive with practical things. Ironically, I hope to make a practical living with music. But with all the competitors who dream the same dream and seeing all the stories of failure and disappointment, I'm trying to divert my mind from believing in art. And I'll admit, if I were in a stable position in life, I'd most likely have a different philosophy revolving around something about art having deep meaning and music being the soul of the universe or some riffraff.
But I'll try not to forget my root ideas surrounding existential nihilism. Although we stress to exemplify perfection, we can never escape hypocrisy. |
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Aug 17, 2012 | 2:42 am |
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@ZipZipper - I always think it must be wonderful to be able to do a job that is more like a hobby. It's a competitive industry, for sure, but we could argue the same for other fields, such as journalism (which is what I was in for many years), sport, media and so on. I think we just have to remain true to our own ideals and ambitions, and try not to get put off by potential problems. By the way, what do you mean when you say you find music worthless? Interesting choice of word. |
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Aug 17, 2012 | 4:42 am |
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@ihussain As I said before, art is pointless; worthless. Its value of true practicality does not exist. It is only the construct of the human mind to be able to fathom abstract thought that we create meaning and beauty out of nothing. The root of all music is spawned from nothing and we are the ones who make up the aesthetics for the sake of show. It is one big void of nothing and I'll never forget that. |
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Aug 17, 2012 | 11:47 am |
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Wow. I don't think I could disagree more, even if you wrapped that sentiment in hate crimes and bigotry.
Music and art's true practicality is all about enriching, enhancing and sharing in the human experience. |
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Aug 17, 2012 | 3:27 pm |
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@ZipZipper - i'm so shocked at that. That's not how I view music at all, and I'm surprised that you, as a fellow musician, take such a dim and cynical view of it. I'm with @Beatle128 - I think music and art enrich our lives, they nourish our souls and they allow us to "flower" and express ourselves, with complete and utter validity. |
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Aug 17, 2012 | 5:57 pm |
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@ihussain Well, it is with this idea that there is no importance to music with which there are no boundaries to music. Because nothing really defines what it is, there is everything out there to make whatever definition you want. Though I do admit I am a "glass is half empty" kind of person, this idea can be taken in a lighter stance as well. Without the constraint of meaning and purpose, there is freedom. Because I think of art as having no meaning, I can have unlimited fun with it; like a clown joking about serious subjects facetiously. He disregards the meaning behind them and incidentally creates a whole new kind of art, perhaps an art of ignorance. You could look at the grand scheme of things as just being a circus, a fleeting performance of jokers, and have a lot of fun...I guess... |
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Aug 17, 2012 | 9:31 pm |
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