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Released: Oct 25, 2011 | 11:58 PM
Category: Alternative
Application: Logic Pro/Studio
Loop Use: No loops

File Type: .mp3
File Size: 6.69 MB

Plays: 993
Downloads: 4
Weekly Plays: 2
Weekly Downloads: 0
Statistic reset day: Tuesday

License: Commercial derivatives allowed; contact artist for permission
I just was doing some stream of conscious music again tonight and thought i love Nausicać of the Valley of the Wind so I will sing about her...silly I know... Please enjoy the randomness of my mind....

=========Production Notes==========
I used Ozone4 for some mastering and some compression on the drums which were the Avatar Set from Superior Drummer by ToonTrack which I think has some nice sounds....I originally wanted to try the Roots Drums from them but got side tracked with this stuff...Oh Well... I used my trusty Lotus P-Bass and my Gold Top Wolfgang from Peavey... I used 3 guitar tracks and a Lead guitar too all the same gold top wolfie. i used my SM58 for my voice and recorded it and normalized it the way I have been doing it live with no head phones while singing....

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10-26-11/ USA!



Hoo-wee.

THIS Rocks!

You've also got the production down beyond "pretty good." You are SO close...you don't even realize it! The technical problem is not the way you mixed your sound. But, the way you mastered it for "loud play back volume" without implementing what's known as:

-0- VU dB for calibration.

I've developed some screenshots to show you what I mean. Here is your goal whenever you mix-down Master. Regardless if a track is mellow, or features awesome guitar distortions such as yours.

(Depending on your browser, click any of the following images once or twice to view them larger and better):

Tone Generate a steady sound and set it to -10 dB. Then raise it to -0-VU dB.
A good tone generator could be holding down a single note on a synth keyboard pre-set with no sustain, etc.

Do this for BOTH (L) & (R) input channels one at a time as follows:

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Here's a final view in stereo. At this point, drop the right channel down a little as shown. This will greatly improve headroom on your final mix in stereo for audience play back. Put away your Tone Generator.
You are now all set:

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Use a stereo-compressor VST Plug-in to achieve this without losing your dynamics and still maintain the loud volume range you intended for listening at play back. Turn off compression and just use Limiting by simply:

1.) Set your Stereo Master Console Volume control output faders to max setting on your board first.

2.) Feed or route those outputs into the VST Compressor Limiter.

3.) Set Ratio to 10+ or Infinity.

4.) Now the "Threshold" fader on the compressor becomes your Master volume control.

Experiment.

You can alternate between Threshold and Ratio by bringing ratio down to about 2:1 or going back up. Fluctuate between the two until your board shows no more peaking.

Meanwhile, never touch the board faders you already established before introducing the compressor-limiter at Master Console Stereo Output.

Here's more screenshots in DAW to show you visually what I mean exactly (on some browsers, if you double click these images, they will appear even larger and more clear to see):

> Panel (A) Before:
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> Panel (B) After:
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This technique is important (in your case) because you already "nailed" your dynamics cleanly along with a huge volume sound.

However, because it is not -O-VU dB calibrated, on some people's speaker systems that have low end amplifiers, it could distort on their speakers.

This technique will ensure that your sound will always play back the way you intended at normal volume (without sacrificing volume gain while still sounding loud and clear). No matter what speaker system it is played through around the world.

Great song, man!

BoOm!

MH~
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Tony!!!

OMG, I love this. It's just fantastic. Excepting the detailed info from MH2010 above, you have become a master producer. I do hear a little of what sounds like over-saturation in the loudest parts, but the mix and everything else sounds just fantastic. And the composition is so cool. Watch for me to DL and stick this in heavy rotation on my iPod. Awesome man! Awesome!
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@MH2010 WOW, TY!!! Words cannot truly express the wonderful advice you have shared with me. I have been toying with how to get a good sound at the Mastering Stage and have searched the internet for this kind of advice. It has alluded me but I believe you have pulled off the veil of black magic surrounding this process. I am forever in your debt. I don't have too much tome to implement this atm but this weekend I will diligently follow your steps here... WOW TY for your kind words and you invaluable advice to a guy who just loves music. YOU, my friend, truly rock!

@Tribrix TY, do you think I can play this at our "Hello Nippon" tour? (SERIOUSLY we must GO!) LOL--You'll need to help me out...maybe even do an electronic version too for fun. I sat down last night just wanting to do something with the ROOTS Drums in Toontrack SD 2.0 just to try them out but I started to futz with the AVATAR Drums (which come with SD 2.0) and they sounded good so I went with that. FYI- I usually Track my stuff really loud but with the master control volume on my system really low. For example, I will boost the Drum track to +6db and leave all the other tracks at 0db while recording them. Then I select all the tracks when ready to mix and set the Drums to 0db which sets the others much lower (-6db to -9db usually) and then I adjust them until I like what I hear usually 2-3 minutes(or play through) of listening.
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@Tony

I may be going off on a tangent that has no bearing on what you or MH2010 said, but I read some old school recording engineer's post about mixing in the digital age and he said something interesting that really seems to have helped me a bunch of times.

according to him

In the analog days, we always wanted to get the VU meters up as high as possible without distorting or over-saturating the tape. The purpose was to get the best signal to noise ratio. However, I have noticed in the digital age (where there is, essentially no noise) that it's best to aim your VU meters (or your virtual meters) to peak much, much lower and leave a lot of head room, which you can make up for by boosting the master faders much higher in mixdown. Somehow, it makes the mix sound less noisy and more spacious. Theoretically, it shouldn't make much difference, but in my experience, it does.

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@Tribrix I guess I am a bit "Old School" that way. I will try it. What did you think about the crazy bass solo intro thingy...I thought I'd do a bunch of notes on a bass just because you rarely ever hear any bass player doing stuff like that outside of Jazz and stuff....BOOM! Bass MADNESS! lol

Peace,
Tony
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